Andrew Lacey
Managing Principal
In two recent decisions, Federal Court of Australia and the New South Wales Court of Appeal clarified the law on admissibility of conversations in affidavits. In the decision of Kane’s Hire Pty Ltd v Anderson Aviation Australia Pty Ltd [2023] FCA 381, Justice Jackman cautioned against the common practice of using direct speech prefaced by the words “words to the effect of” in affidavits in circumstances where the witness can only recall the gist of the conversation. In the decision of Gan v Xie [2023] NSWCA 163 handed down on 17 July 2023, the New South Wales Court of Appeal (comprised of Justice White JA, Simpson AJA and Basten AJA) has endorsed Justice Jackman’s observations.
It is common practice in drafting affidavits to include conversations in direct speech prefaced by the phrase “words to the effect of”.
The (misconceived) rationale for this practice seems to be to bolster the credibility of the witness in the event that it comes out in cross-examination that they did not recall the actual words used in the conversation.
In the decision of Kane’s Hire Pty Ltd v Anderson Aviation Australia Pty Ltd [2023] FCA 381, Justice Jackman criticised this practice – his Honour called the practice of using direct speech for conversations (whether or not prefaced by the phrase “words to the effect of”) where the witness only recalls the gist of what was said to be “logically, ethically, and grammatically wrong”. Critically, the use of direct speech suggests that the witness has an iron clad memory of the conversation, which is to create a false impression of their memory (and thus credibility) if they in fact only recall the gist of what was said.
The fact that memory is fallible, and not a literal reproduction of the past, is well established in psychology, and has been recognised by the Courts. In the words of McLelland CJ in Eq in Watson v Foxman (1995) 49 NSWLR 315:
“All too often what is actually remembered is little more than an impression from which plausible details are then, again often subconsciously, constructed. All this is a matter of ordinary human experience.”
However, that well recognised fact does not mean that evidence of a conversation should be rejected if the witness cannot recall the exact words used – it will always be a matter of degree as to how strong the witness’s recollection of the conversation is and how much weight will be given to that evidence.
By the same token, Justice Jackman’s comments are not cause for the wholesale abolition of direct speech in affidavits – direct speech should be used in circumstances where the witness has a verbatim memory of the conversation (though this will usually be rare unless the witness has a recording or an accurate, contemporaneous note of the conversation).
In Kane’s Hire Pty Ltd v Anderson Aviation Australia Pty Ltd [2023] FCA 381, Justice Jackman sets out the following useful principles for witnesses preparing evidence of conversations:
In the decision of Gan v Xie [2023] NSWCA 163 handed down on 17 July 2023, the New South Wales Court of Appeal endorsed Justice Jackman’s comments.
One of the issues in the proceedings at first instance was whether the defendant had made representations to the plaintiff in conversation to induce her to invest in an alleged pyramid scheme.
One of the issues before the New South Wales Court of Appeal was whether the primary judge made an error by rejecting the evidence of conversations of two witnesses who did not have specific recollections of the actual words used in the conversations.
Justice White (with whom Simpson AJA and Basten AJA agreed) held:
“The fact that precise words used, and the specific occasions on which words were used, are not recalled, does not mean that a person’s memory of the substance or “gist” of what was said must be rejected.”
For that reason, the New South Wales Court of Appeal held that the judge at first instance had fallen into error by finding that none of the alleged representations had been made.
The result of the judgment was that the appeal was successful, and the case was sent back to the District Court for a fresh trial.
The decision highlights the importance of proper drafting of conversations in affidavits so that they reflect the witness’s actual memory.
That means that if the witness has a clear memory of the actual words used, direct speech is appropriate. However, the use of indirect speech is appropriate where the witness remembers the gist of what was said. Neither form is more or less credible than the other.
Following the principles set out by Justice Jackman referred to above is recommended.
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